Tuesday, 5 December 2017

Tridentine Mass

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The Tridentine Mass blows the mind. I attended a wonderfully well sung Tridentine Mass in Sunday in Rome and it convinced me that the way to reevangelise Europe is to have a solemn sung Mass in the old rite every Sunday in every Catholic church in Europe.




The vandalism and ugliness of the 1960s cannot be described.




My priest friend told me Pope Paul VI expected Europe to become far left, which it has, and that the vernacular Mass was a way to adapt to this which it is not.

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  1. Well, it might be a start along with ending abortion and contraception.

    Over the past 8 weeks, I've been attending a local SSPX Sunday Mass. There is no comparison between EF and OF. Now, I come out of Mass with a light heart and deep gratitude. Quite the opposite of the smorgasbord NO I have been attending.

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    1. Lucky you to be able to attend an old Mass. There are none in Romania.

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  2. My priest friend told me Pope Paul VI expected Europe to become far left, which it has, and that the vernacular Mass was a way to adapt to this which it is not.

    The point at which a religion tries to adapt is the point at which it becomes a dead religion.

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  3. At the Second Vatican Council the Church decided to move towards the world at the moment when the (rich) world moved away from Christianity.

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    1. An excellent summary which I will add to my quote journal. With due credit, of course.

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  4. Capitalism encourages people to expect (even demand) high return on investment. Prayer cannot compare except in an unquantifiable feel-good way. Perhaps it is capitalism as well as leftism that has deflated the the church's power.

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  5. Perhaps it is capitalism as well as leftism that has deflated the the church's power.

    Capitalism is and always has been a much more deadly threat to Christianity than socialism. Christianity can survive under socialism. In the long term it cannot survive under capitalism. Christianity can fight back against socialism. It cannot fight back against capitalism.

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    1. Is Christianity in this respect different from Islam? If capitalism defeats Christianity then can it also defeat Islam? I've put my hopes in blue jeans and Coca-Cola to render the Arab street more impervious to Islam. I think it worked in the 70s but it hasn't been working for the past 20 years or so.

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    2. Communism kills the body but capitalism kills the soul. With hindsight its a shame that the Red Army stopped at Germany. If the USSR had conquered Britain they would not have succeeded in wrecking Britain as effectively as our own democratically elected governments have. We picked the wrong side in World War II and the even worse side in the Cold War.

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    3. Is Christianity in this respect different from Islam? If capitalism defeats Christianity then can it also defeat Islam?

      Probably, but there is some hope. Islam has had the opportunity to learn from Christianity's failures. They know that the Christian strategy of pre-emptive surrender does not work. They know they will have to fight. Also Islam is a less passive religion than Christianity. Christianity is essentially a feminine religion. These days it appeals only to women and homosexual men. I think Islam will put up a better fight.

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    4. We picked the wrong side in World War II and the even worse side in the Cold War.

      I agree totally about the Cold War. The bad guys won. Conservatives cling to the pathetic illusion that they won the Cold War. They didn't. It was a victory for the twin evils of liberalism and capitalism.

      In retrospect the Soviet Union was the lesser of two evils.

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    5. Not just in retrospect. Even in the 1950s a small number of people on the far Right were arguing that the Soviet Union was the lesser of two evils and that New York, not Moscow was the real threat to the West's survival. Neo-Spenglerians such as Francis Parker Yockey were openly pro-Soviet and viewed the USSR's Spartan ethos and its "socialist realism" in the arts positively compared to the "ethical syphilis" of Hollywood.

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